Monday, May 24, 2010

Who is gonna make sure online gaming is fair and can prove they are not cheating the online gamblers?

I am a online poker player, and I lost bunch money threw past years, and I felt suspicious about some of the cards the way they were running? and I just wondering is there any types of commitee to department to keep those sites straight...

Who is gonna make sure online gaming is fair and can prove they are not cheating the online gamblers?
I make my living playing poker. I play online between 20 to 70 hours a week. I play on several popular sites. I can assure you: It's straight. There is no reason for the site to " cheat" or "Steal" money from you. They make millions running the way they do. Why jeopardize that ? No need. Playing online can be different than live. You're going to see a lot more hands, a lot more situations. Also depending on the limits you are playing you are going to find a lot more loose players.





Bottom line: Maybe you need to change the way you're playing. How's your bankroll management? Do you go on tilt easily? Do you play the right limits? So many questions you can ask yourself. Practice, keep note of your sessions, analyze your play, work on your game. Poker is tough! Just don't blame the site for your losses. Be honest with yourself, and do the best you can to get better.





By the way, the answer below talk about "collusion" Don't worry about those either: In the long run they can't even beat the rake!!! Having 3 players who work together at the same table can't even break even in the long run! Period. And you don't find many of those collusion anymore. The sites are hard on them, and can easily identify them.





If you have a doubt when you're playing, move from the table, contact the site. If you doubt about collusion between 2 players at your table. Give their name to the site. Most of the site can look to the history of those players, and if they see that, those two play often together and their play look suspitious: They are out! And won't be able to withdrawl their money.





Good luck with your game.
Reply:For a start, you make sure they belong to eCOGRA.


Two reputable player protection organizations are eCOGRA and the Interactive Gaming Council. Look for the eCOGRA member mark on the casino's home page. The Interactive Gaming Council is a not-for-profit organization founded to establish fair and responsible trade guidelines and practices that enhance consumer confidence in interactive gaming products and services, and to serve as the industry’s public policy advocate and information clearinghouse. The Interactive Gaming Council has established responsible gambling guidelines to which its members have agreed to adhere.





eCommerce and Online Gambling Regulation and Assurance (eCOGRA) is a non-profit independent organization that imposes strict operating rules designated as Generally Accepted Practices (eGAP) on its members. eCOGRA offers a good deal for both online gamblers and Online Casinos. When members adhere to eCOGRA guidelines, they are accepting rules and regulations that protect the online gambler. Online gamers like yourself in turn look for Online Casnios that are members of eCOGRA because you feel a sense of security that its members will be dealing honestly with you and your money.





A list of member Online Casinos can be found on eCOGRA’s web site. http://www.ecogra.com/approved.aspx?OP=P
Reply:even if the site is legit. i know people that play online poker as a group. they go on a table together while they talk on the phone. telling each other what hands they have. then they gang up on one player and split the earnings.
Reply:anything electronic can be modified to suit any purpose.... and there is a possibility many sites cheat, its the internet after all..


If you suspect something wrong is going on simply dont play.


Had a friend who played backgammon on one site, and he told me that even though the site claimed to have random rolls, that wasnt the case... every time you doubled the cube, 7 out of 10 times the next roll was a double... i saw it and was amazed.....
Reply:Your suspicions are all wrong.


End of the question.


(I'm not saying online gambling is fair. I say it is PROBABLY fair, but if it isn't, there is NO WAY you figured it out in a few years of playing. Even if you played 24/365 for fifty years).


There's billions of possibility. Please don't tell me you counted those thousand of hands you played mentally.


It might be hard to accept it but...


Over the long run :


The best players win.


The worst players lose.


You can only admit it. Some players win hundred of grands... you don't.
Reply:The sites claim they are independently monitored, but I doubt it. Each of the sites is run from foreign soil, and there are probably limited rules and regulations being followed - especially when money is involved.


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